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Bert made his first film chronicling a family vacation using his dad's Bell and Howell Super 8 camera. In high school his film class made an instructional film and laid the groundwork for the classic Milpitas Monster film. While working for United Airlines he wrote and directed an industrial training film and was thrilled to be behind the pilot during a rare in-cockpit shot of a DC-8 takeoff.

He joined forces with This 'n That Films in 2012 to make Mid-Century Moderns. Since that release he has enjoyed working together to make Quiet Elegance and became a "Twainiac" researching 88 Days in the Mother Lode. As a published author, he's a big believer in John Lasseter's quote - it's all about the story.  Bert and his wife live in Palm Springs with their two miniature Dachshunds.

You can reach Bert at bert@thisnthatfilms.net
Producer/Writer - Bert Simonis
Producer/Director - John C. Brown
John C. began his career as a news intern with WMUR-TV in his home state of New Hampshire. He attended the University of NH and holds a B.A. in Television/Film Production from the Communications Department.  

While a student at UNH, he worked for NH Public TV, most notably as Associate Producer for Ciao Italia, a cooking series seen nationally on PBS. He continued with NHPTV as a producer/editor after graduation and his work on the locally broadcast NH Crossroads earned him two Telly Awards.

This 'n That Films was born in 2002 after John moved to Los Angeles from New York. His award-winning, feature length documentary The Last First Comic is now available on DVD. John freelances as an editor, videographer and educator.

You can reach John at john@thisnthatfilms.net
Producer/Writer, The Last First Comic - Bart Williams
A native Los Angelino, Bart began acting professionally at the age of 11.  Film credits include "Bye, Bye, Birdie," "Hello, Dolly," "An Enemy of the People," "Hadley's Rebellion" and "The Doomsday Clock."  On TV: "General Hospital," "MAD TV," "Weird Science," and "The Richard Simmons Show."  On stage, Bart played numerous roles in national tours and regional productions, including the title role in "The Wizard of Oz" at Radio City Music Hall.  He won two Drama-Logue Critic's Awards - one for comedy and one for dramatic acting.

A lifelong cinema and theatre historian, Bart was a member of The Sons of the Desert, The Buster Keaton Society and proudly served for many years as an elected National Council Member of Actor's Equity Association.